Began playing around with 8mm film 5 years ago. Performed live cinema at a couple of gigs, scratching, burning and drawingpainting on the film as it was projected. slowly developed that technique into a live vj set that we could perform for up to a few hours. Was invited to perform with that live analogue setup at lots of UK festivals over the following couple of years, and then slowly began to use more and more computer based content in our performances. Nowadays we almost never bring out the analogue setup, its so much work that few promoters will pay enough to make it worth while. I am now mostly working with VVVV creating generative visuals running on mapped installations.